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I've been talking to a guy on the internet from india who's 25 and im 17. He sounds realy nice and educated. But I'm from Canada and he wants me to go to inda and meet him, of course i can't travel by myself there so i said maybe in a year i would go. I need to know what questions i should ask to make sure he's not just trying to get a visa or anything else

I know of many mixed-race couples and they are very happy. I don't believe that most Indian men are that heartless moderator. Ofcourse they fall in love, it's a human thing, we all (well most) do it. And if Indian men are using women just to date and throw aside, well what does that say about their general moral character? I do believe however, that most Indians, weather male or female are very tied to the 'culture', and it is probably true that most white women should be wary when dating an Indian man, as his first priority will be to his parents and family, not the white girlfriend. That is unless he has a very strong personality and some backbone.

As for the notion that only the poor or disadvantaged Indian people would choose white spouses, I find that an incredible statement. I would say that money has little to do with it, more on how brave a person is to follow their hearts and gut instincts rather than the culture and those who put themselves on a pedestol and tell us they are in charge and speak for all, when all are doing their own thing.


Well there are as I said exceptions always everywhere. I have given my views that are based on reality and correspond to a general lot. Morality is a personal choice usually not a social norm.

It will do good if you visited India or actually met some Indian people recently migrated to other lands, you may be surprised or shocked.

I do know that truth hurts but we are at times when things are changing. India is also changing. But here we are talking about a particular type of people. Of course people do fall in love too and Indian men are no exception. Marriage and love are totally different issues for most people in context of Indian traditions. Please do not compare India with other cultures that have their own characteristics.

I hope nobody should take my comments personally.

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I'm dating an Indian man right now and have been for almost three years. I'm frustrated because I don't seem to know where I stand with him. He doesn't tell me he loves me because it's not something he was raised to say. He has thought about marriage but I still haven't met any of his family. If we have plans and some family function comes up, I'm expected to just accept it and not be upset about it. Am I supposed to accept always coming in last with him? Is this some sort of trait that is exclusive to Indian males or what? Please help. This is only the tip of the iceberg....I've got a million questions.


Why do you think it is different with Indian men? It is very simple that he is not dating to marry you. Indian men socially and traditionally not used to dating and those who do, know inherently that success with a non-Indian spouse is very limited. There are so many stories of failure where South Asian men marry foreign ladies only to be deserted sooner or later.

My answer sounds very harsh but it is true and applicable to most South Asian Men.

This site is full of women and men in "love" with Indian origin men and women and blaming them for their situation. Love or dating is not considered a trial of marriage in India. It is considered a social play of men for amusement.

Most Indian men will never marry the woman they date. Indian society rejects women who sleep with their men before marriage. This apparently wont easily change in near future. A woman that dates or has a premarital relation is not considered a woman of good character. This may sound extremely bizarre to foreign cultures but this is a reality and you should accept it.

You and all other people should learn this clearly and without any doubt. If you do want to keep dreaming you are entitled to do so. I am writing this to clear some hot air and to save from delusions.

I am basing my point after seeing the big picture. Indian culture will never accept a foreign spouse even if you are white, black or whichever color. There may be some very complexed Indians who consider them low caste or poor or deprived and they will marry any one appearing to be "fairer", richer or "foreigner" [Foreigner means dollar and "Very rich" for most poor and socially deprived Indians], just to upgrade their social status. But even those are exceptions.

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haha
and you must be a pig eater for sure smelling of burnt flesh of filth eating animal.
Look around and smell yourself with care and yould notice ugliness of yourself. Curry and onion are the most beautiful foods that cure and heal the body.

abraham,

you are indian too. so, why complain about her? i'm pretty sure that you smell of curry and onion most of the time.

abraham

i am currently married to an Indian girl. she is so dirty and so messy. she never clean the house nor does she clean the kitchen. i always wash the dishes and i feeling negative. we married one year ago and she already got the greencard. what should i do because i do not want to live with her any more because she is so stinky. should i notify imigration. your help would be greatly appreciated.

You dont need any addresses to post here. This is an open discussion. If you have any issue discuss it here. All these people who want to discuss personally thru mail are usually secretive with hidden agenda.

on which subject to discuss/talk/speak fiance, i am less talkative, he is more talkative, he get angry i if did speak on net, we recetly got engaged, i know him for 4 mths, i love him but cannot express my feelings, he did told that he love me or not

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Hello My 2 Cents,

I am currently married to an indian man. I have been interested to talk to others in my type of relationship, not sure if I can give u my mail address here but if there is some way we can get in touch it would be wonderful, just to share experinces and talk.

No I'm not African American but I've been done enough research and reading about how SOME Indians are to know. Of course I have to stress that everyone is not like this.

And their prejudice isn't just against African backgrounds, it's against anyone that is not their caste or whatever is their parents qualifications (Dr., engineer whatever there is always something). African Americans are lower down on the totem pole then whites I would say as far as their acceptance of a match with a non-indian goes.

Read the arranged marriage ads they post. They all request or say they are all wheatish or light skinned. None of them will admit being dark. Skin lighteners are big in the cosemetic market there too. My SO was teased about his dark skin by other kids when he was little.

I had problems with his family, they threatened to diswown him yada yada yada. Well we are getting married in India soon and his family has accepted me. Basically they gave up since my fiance is older and they don't feel they can arrange a marriage with an Indian girl for him since he is in love with me. ;) So at least they saw the light at the end. I haven't met them yet. I will when I go over to get married.

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my-two-cents

Well he did call finally last night about 12:00am but he did not leave a message. I beleive at this point we will be playing the caller-id game. In any case I will pay close attention to what he says and what he does from now on.

Only God knows what his next move will be because I think I shocked him also with the low down about some indian men. Maybe he will not call me back again.

Did you meet your mans parents? Are you African American? What did his parents and friends have to say about your relationship with him? Are you still together? Would you consider marrying him? Do you love him?

Thanks, for your sound advise.

Good for you! Well if he is real he will come back -if not you saved yourself form a loser.

Don't worry about his being 'offended'. These guys know all the crap other Indian men have done to non-indian women. When I frist met my SO I made sure and asked him if he was married. He was shocked but he knew I had good reason to ask - there as so many stories about Indian screwing western women there is not time to go through them all.

I also made sure that he had intentions of introducing and bringing my up with his family who were looking for an arranged marriage for him at the time.

LEt me know what happens.

To my-two-cents, from Jacqueline.

I hear everything you say and you are right. So I confronted him with all the facts you posed. We were suppose to meet last Monday the day after I confronted him. So far he did not show up and he did not return any of my calls so you maybe right after all.

I do care for him but I don't want to be made a fool of either. I have not kown him for a long time so I did not expect to be introduced to his family so soon. But, my concern was rather I should even put my self out there in the first place.

I know it is possible to fall in love with a person from another culture because for sure I can fall in love with him.

I thank every one for their comments. I will keep you posted if he calls me back. He says I offended him by even thinking the way I am about him or indians. He would like to know where I am getting all of this information. Of course this will be my little secret. So wish me luck that he is for real if he does contact me again. I think I gave him a lot to think about, either that or all of my real fears have just been confirmed.